Welcome Back! 
    to the Yahoo's Monthly Investor's Challenge Game. 
    I retired this site in the Spring of 2000 because everybody got rich and became an expert. It is now Christmas, December, 2000 and experts are hard to fine. But you need look no further than the Yahoo Investment Challenge to find some magic. Check out how in this savage market  players were able to turn $100,000 into nearly $300,000 going long only!!! 
    Notice Yahoo has suspended this game as of August, 2001, however our archives of previous monthly games may be accessed on the left hand margin. We will rebuild the TopGun site to focus on the wild world of penny stock trading. 
    Stay tuned. See you October,1 for the launch!
We offer links and commentary to help you win.
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DECEMBER 2000
Final Week
$5,000 first prize
$3,000 second
$2,000 3rd prize

CSSTOCKS ! $262,000
         chen_aun $253,000 
        SaturdayB     $240,000

Its not about Investing
Its about 
The Game !
jgm

When "virtually" everybody that is anybody anywhere has an Internet address... Well let's just say its going to get a lot more interesting and dangerous.
I hope all you lost this month is the Yahoo Investor's Challenge.
jgm 
April, 2000

 
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Welcome to Top Guns,   
If you are new, please don't  be confused into thinking we are making investment decisions here. This is a real time strategy game buying and selling real stocks and that's all. The following links are presented to help you learn more about stocks and trading them. All are free and if you find one that isn't let me know. But if you are thinking of investing real money beware of chasing todays hot stocks. Most crash and burn in less than a week leaving many nice people holding the bag. Several Internet "personalities" have huge followings that can drive stocks up like hot air balloons in a matter of minutes, but if you click on their profile you can check out past  picks and in many cases you'll see them back to where thay started or lower. Someone's hurting to be sure. So if you want to play, play with Yahoo's contest money not your own!  JGM 

Understanding The Yahoo Investment Challenge

This is a fantasy game using real stocks trading on the major exchanges. The quality of stocks purchased is totally up to the player. As the point of this game is to make the most money within a 30 day period, players take risks that would not be prudent for long term investors. This game has nothing to do at all with investing because there is no risk of  losing anything. Its Free! If you lose all your money , don't worry Yahoo will give you another fantasy $100,000 to play with next month. That doesn't happen in the Real world.  jgm 

 
Who knows, maybe you'll get a letter like this:
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:48:59 -0700
From: Laura Hanley 
Organization: Yahoo!
To: John G. Mueller
jgm@thecia.net aka Maymycatbefat
Subject: You're a Winner in the Yahoo! Investment Challenge!
CONGRATULATIONS! We are pleased to inform you that you were one of our top 10 winners of the July Yahoo! Finance Investment Challenge. 
For your final standings in the contest please see the Yahoo! Investment Challenge Standings page.
Your Yahoo! Finance T-shirt will be mailed to you directly. Please reply to this email with your preferred mailing address and T-shirt size. 
If you were one of our Top 3 finishers you will be contacted soon with additional information about your prize. 
Regards, 
Laura Hanley, Producer 
Yahoo! Finance
 
 
 
 
 
Can U Become A Better Trader ? 
 First read about real Daytraders (at bottom) 
 study the  "The 20 Golden Rules of Trading 
Time your entry and exit better  
see the Daytraders Clock post from SI

Money Management 101. 
"A man that manages his own money has a fool for a client.

I can't take much comfort from the  "play money" attitude prevailing today. True. it is just a relative few players making all the waves considering the entire investing universe. Still one explanation of why so many "value" stocks languish , is that they are being abandoned to fuel the "Hot Stock" quest. But I can warn you that in that game there is some truth in the ad slogan The Slow Die First! 

If you are not having fun playing that game...
then you are playing the wrong game! 
Hire a mutual fund manager and start enjoying life! 
If you have some ideas or web sites devoted to this topic share them as we develop this new page for our players. Only remember it has to be FREE! 
And speaking about free,  nothing really is you know so patronize those that produce the sites you enjoy.  Thanks! 



 Top Gun Sites and commentary  by John G. Mueller are intended to be of interest to those playing the Yahoo Investment Game and in no way should to be misconstrued as investment or trading advice. 
It's just for fun folks! jgm.   This site has earned its retirement!
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LINKS to What's hot on the Internet for Online OnLineTraders & wanttobes
These services are free to view! 

  


And don't forget everyone's favorite Mystic:" The secret of success is the determination to succeed and not the determination to avoid failure. While one person hesitates because he feels inferior, the other is busy making mistakes and becoming superior." Riceen 7/26/99
Riceen  retired after selling out near the top in March 2000.  Now Riceens followers are repurchasing selected companies.

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then study the  "The 20 Golden Rules of Trading"
To: +kendall harmon (54125 )  
     From: +Jenna  
                                            Saturday, Jul 31 1999 11:27PM ET 
                                                 Reply #  of 54159  

     Daytraders (I don't consider myself a daytrader, but a hit'n run trader and if the market 
     improves I'll consider myself a position trader, I reserve the right not o stereotype my 
     trading style.. That was an excellent article and I took out a piece I think you should  
     cut out and keep in close by:  

     <<Though day trading has grown more challenging since the Internet stocks peaked, 
     few day traders have buckled down to doing the kind of homework that more  
     selective trading demands.  

     Mary Lanigan, who is 52 and trades with Momentum Securities in Houston, avoids 
     Internet stocks. Early last week, she was amused to find that many of the young  
     traders around her, who tend to focus solely on the internal rhythms of the trading  
     day,  were mystified that Yahoo was slumping despite apparently good earnings.  

     "I had seen the negative story in Barron's on Saturday, analyzing the quality of those 
     earnings," she said. "They hadn't." >> 

     This is mind-boggling. I'm not saying I'm the norm, I'm not.. I'm a computer and 
     research nerd and I know it but its also my business. I also know that when I finish the 
     day or the week I sleep well, I am not in danger of burning out (I've paid the piper  
     with two very large losses in the last 5 years and the occasional stupid moves even  
     now ) 
     That Barron's article is the very least this daytrader should have read, but even I've  
     seen on CNBC when a BGEN, NKE or LXK sell off they say "Great earnings but  
     stock still sold off in that questioning befuddled way they have of reporting." 

     Daytrading is not the same for all people. Daygrading for me and SF and probably for 
     Sam, does not mean buying CSCO, YHOO, AMZN 20 times a day and selling it  
     again for 1/8 point. Daytrading has been forced upon us by the internets and IPO's  
     that are capable of giving 5+ points in a trade. That is not scalping. That is like living in  
     a time warp where 1 days is set at fast forward to be like 5 days.  

     I have never bought an IPO the first day, that is pure and simply gambling. Only in the 
     last 2 months I've bought them after 1 or 2 weeks of trading. I try to research them as 
     much as I can.. some are not bad. I liked STMP, AUDC, PHCM, and at least 1  
     dozen others like CMTN, BRCD, JNPT JWEB, because they do well (FOR A DAY  
     OR TWO). I stay with the same ones over and over and rarely hold overnight. I get  
     out when the loss is 3-4% unless its a short position where I tend to wait until 5%.  

     I study charts, study fundamentals, read a lot, watch others I trust, and still make 
     mistakes.. but take away every part of the last sentence and you are left with the word 
     MISTAKES... Have you noticed how kendall, or kha vu or aliveinsf, how viola  
     'knows' her stock or how SF with his technical background also seems to hover over  
     the same ones. They are not daytraders.. they trade and sell when the stock loses  
     steam,, but they study, ask them about WITC or NITE or ask kha about BEAM or  
     Burjis about NFF..They know..As OJ about almost anything or Lee. or how Sam can  
     read his Money Flow or just about any regular on this thread.  

     These are not the same daytrader that trade with ATTAIN or hit on YHOO because 
     their neighbor made a killing in March or April but now its May and the nets died. Or 
     the self proclaimed guru who has been accumulating nets not giving in an iota that the 
     bottom was dropping out 

     Too many people are getting on the trading bandwagon and not doing any research, 
     can't tell a road map from a stock chart, doesn't even know what EPS stands for or 
     things OBV is some kind of sports statistics. I'm not making light of them, I'm pretty 
     angered that they are let loose and not told how difficult it really is. I don't know where 
     the blame begins.. but its somewhere with companies hiring these novices and throwing 
     them into the arena too quickly.  

     I was in 2 trading establishments one day before the tragedy.. It looked sick,   stressful,  
     just wanted to get out of there. Traders only knew the colored lines of the level II and 
     talked MM's without any regard to the company, the volume, the technicals, I won't 
     even mention fundamentals.  

     The discount brokers are providing a wonderful service, education sites like 
     www.tradehard.com, www.clearstation.com, www.wallstreetcity.com, 
     www.multexinvestor.com, Zacks, all offer what you need, but if you don't go and look 
     and read and study what good is going to do opening an account without knowing  
     how to trade.. It doesn't take two weeks. It took me two weeks just to learn  
     Townshend Analytics and what all the buttons were for.  

     Anything that will net your $50-100,000 a year (so they claim) will not take you 1-2 
     weeks to learn. More like 1-2 year at the very least and that is full time day and night 
     starting out with enough cash to begin with. Its just like that guy at night on the 
     infomercial who claims to be a multimillionaire by buying real estate with 'no money 
     down'.. or the neighbor who said I'd be rich selling phone cards and explained some 
     kind of idiotic pyramid scheme 

     Get a good education, not just $3,000 seminar alone but get some books and read, 
     paper trade, study the Investor's Business Daily and what it offers. Go slowly, forget  
     the word 'daytrade' and substitute the word "individual investor'. and if I were you I  
     would do this independently and not 'join a trading room with 30 other prisoners and  
     the MM and the owner as warden'. 
 
 
 

Also check out 
 "The 20 Golden Rules of Trading"
Thanks for stopping by, John G. Mueller editor Aliveweb/TopGuns